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★★ Horizon Network ★★
We are a minecraft and discord community, but also a Minecraft Network, striving to be the best MC Network.
Here are some things we can offer to YOU!
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🤝 » Supportive Staff 💬 » Active Chats
📘 » Frequent Updates 🏣 » Custom Invite Tracker
🤚 » Custom Bot 🔀 » Server Crossplay
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⏩ » Booster Rewards
🌟 » New Features Weekly
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🏅 » Non P2W 🏆 » Events
👋 » Friendly Community 💬 » Active Chats
🤝 » Supportive Staff 🗳 » 30+ Voting websites
📘 » Frequent Updates 🔀 » Bedrock x Java Support
🛡 » Good Security 💰 » Cheap store prices
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Well? What are you waiting for?
★ Join Us Today ★
★ You can always leave if you don’t like our community!
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🔗 » Java: play.horizonhub.live
🔗 » Bedrock: play.horizonhub.live:19132
🔗 » Website: https://horizonnetwork.co
🔗 » Store: https://store.horizonhub.live
🔗 » Vote: https://vote.horizonhub.live
Now on 1.9-1.19.1!
Come join the best Semi Vanilla Survival Server! Keep Inventory – SMP – Land Claims – Community! We are an SMP server that offers a quick start to play multiplayer Minecraft survival and runs a high-end server to ensure there is minimal lag.
Survival has never been easier to begin, you can begin right away by using the random teleport portal provided. You no longer have to worry about spawning in a massive hub or spending a half hour figuring out how to play survival. Our spawn is a very simple, but useful place filled with item shops, warps, and more!
Our server offers features the competition just doesn’t! With custom items, weapons, recipes, armours and bosses. You can grind for the best stats with skills and reforging or collect every talisman available to get a huge stat boost. You can even get Trackers™ to see your weapons/tools stats.
We have Grief Prevention Land Claiming, and use the additional commands /spawn, /sethome, and /home so you can get back to your base/build whenever you want with Keep inventory on.
TraverseMC has a welcoming, kind, and social community. We want to provide a fun and classic Minecraft experience where you can build and explore with others. Our staff is kind and welcoming to everyone who shares their love for this game.
play.traversemc.ga
SettleScape is a small, tight-knit server with high-quality, open-source configuration, quality moderation, and a mature playerbase. It is a survival PvE server, focused primarily around the construction of towns.
While the server does accept donations to stay afloat, it operates essentially as a non-profit; and all funds earned in excess of the amount needed to stay online go either to improving the server, or as redonations to the plugins that make the server what it is — so supporting SettleScape directly supports the Minecraft server development community at-large.
The server has been around since mid-2019 and intends to stay up for the long-haul. The world is persistent — players can rest assured that their countless hours of hard work will never be deleted. Even in the event that the server goes offline forever someday, world downloads will be provided. The server has an aggressive backup strategy with a separate, off-site server; so even if the server host goes up in flames, your builds are still safe.
Some notable plugins on the server are Towny, mcMMO, rankup, Beacon+, Jobs, and plenty more. Players who encounter bugs are encouraged to lodge issues on the server’s GitHub issue tracker; and there is an in-game bug bounty of $1000.
There is a no-tolerance policy for bad actors, griefers, etc. SettleScape has a small team of experienced moderators who will not stand for violations of the server’s few, but sacrosanct, rules.
While children are not disallowed on the server, there are currently no special arrangements made for them. Children under 18 should seek their parents’ approval before playing on any public Minecraft server. Children under 13 are not allowed on SettleScape except with parental supervision.
settlescape.org
What is DTMCraft?
DTMCraft was founded by DTM Panda after trying to create an hardcore survival series with DTM_ShadowSlayer now known as DTM_Roleplays, the series was gonna be done once per year but it never came to be due to every DTM member were busy with Roleplaying.
Time went on and I made a promise to DTM_Roleplay to create a server dedicated to her and so I did.
The Server was orginally called Mystic-Craft-Network but recently renamed to DTMCraft for easier to remember.
since then the server has been growing strong within 4 years in the making, it got released twice, one was back in Augest but due to the server dieing really quick, I went back into it and worked on it some more, I released the server for testers to test the game mechanics for any issues or bugs and try to balance the server some more back on the 13th October 2021 – the date this thread was created.
Since then I am going to release the server public for everyone to enjoy on the 1st December 2021 but before I release it if anyone here want a chance to get whitelisted then comment your full in-game username and aqquire /fly forever unless you get yourself on the blacklist.
Why DTMCraft?
Well DTMCraft is nothing special to any other server, but give us a chance and hopefully you won’t regret it, DTMCraft is an Towny Roleplay server bring some roleplay back to life within a towny world, we have a custom ready to be explored map waiting for some amazing talented builders to build some amazing structures or add some ruined look to all the towns that got abandoned by their owners.
DTMCraft provides a safe enviorment to all ages 13+ is the minium age to join my server. We also have 10+ hidden game mechanics that I will not share easily they are a mystery ready to be solved. We do however have 20 freeranks ready to be redeemed and more will come soon.
Where we Stand?
At the current moment the server is whitelisted to Alpha Testers which you can become one of them by giving me your full in-game name where I will put you on the whitelist forever until you get banned.
I am attempting to fix all voting sites within the server since they do not give you any rewards like it should. their is a couple of balancing to be done but I have a custom Stat tracker to help me sort that out hence why I am releasing the server to everyone on the 1st December 2021.
Currently this thread is being used to test votes but if you want to check our progress then I reccomend you joining our discord
Survival – A lot of features for exciting gameplay
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104.238.220.169:25609
Description in English
Earth map 1: 2000 scale – survival mode -Version- Supports connecting from 1.8 java and up + supports connecting from Minecraft Bedrock edition 1.16
Plugins are AdminAnything *, ClearLag, CustomItems, EasyPrefix, EntityTrackerFixer, Essentials, EssentialsAntiBuild, EssentialsProtect, EssentialsSpawn, floodgate-bukkit, Geyser-Spigot, LapisBans, LimitPillagers, mcMMO, MinecraftServerManager, ProtocolBaultItrgs, TowncraftServerManager, ProtocolBaultIault, Towncraft, ProtocolBaultIault , VillagerOptimiser
Server is not 24/7, only online between 12:00 (start time) Moscow time and 23:00 (shutdown time) Moscow time (start time may vary
Description in Russian
Survival on the earth map at a scale of 1: 2000 – Version 1.8 to 1.16 on the java edition – it is also possible to enter with Bedrock edition 1.16
The server works between 12:00 (start time may vary) and 23:00
Plugins
AdminAnything *, ClearLag, CustomItems, EasyPrefix, EntityTrackerFixer, Essentials, EssentialsAntiBuild, EssentialsProtect, EssentialsSpawn, floodgate-bukkit, Geyser-Spigot, LapisBans, LimitPillagers, mcMMO, MinecraftServerManager, Placeholder-VestBridge, TownBridgeOptions, TowncraftServerManager, Placeholders
Earth map 1:2000 scale – survival mode -Supports connecting from 1.8 java and up + supports connecting from Minecraft Bedrock edition 1.16
Plugins are AdminAnything*, ClearLag, CustomItems, EasyPrefix, EntityTrackerFixer, Essentials, EssentialsAntiBuild, EssentialsProtect, EssentialsSpawn, floodgate-bukkit, Geyser-Spigot, LapisBans, LimitPillagers, mcMMO, MinecraftServerManager, PlaceholderAPI, ProtocolLib, TAB-BukkitBridge, Towny, UltraPermissions, Vault, VillagerOptimiser
Server is not 24/7 , only online between 12:00( start time) moscow time and 23:00(shutdown time) moscow time (start time may vary
earthmap.serveminecraft.net:25577
![Vote for [PL] ExtremeOnly | MC](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/PL-ExtremeOnly-MC.png)
https://ExtremeOnly.net.pl
The only well-kept MC server in Poland:
Name: [PL] ExtremeOnly | MC
Slot: 32
IP: 145.239.87.242:25565
V: 1.1.6.1
What does it offer?
– Plots
– Easy Exp (Lvl)
– Nice administration
– A large map of 100,000 boxes
– Easy recruitment (On our forum)
In the future:
– We will buy an advertisement for the server
– We will extend the network
Links
Website: https://extremeonly.net.pl/www/MC
Forum: https://extremeonly.net.pl/
GameTracker: https://www.gametracker.com/server_info/145.239.87.242:25565/
Report an error: https://extremeonly.net.pl/bug
IP: 145.239.87.242
Keep inventory | Good vibes | Player-based economy | Voting ranks | 1.18 Cave Generation!
PixelBlock is an economy-based survival server with 1.18 generation! And all kinds of unique and custom features.
The community is very friendly and staff are always online to help you. So what are you waiting for? Join now!!!!
The 500×500 sets you in a world of *limited* potential allowing you to be *constrained* in your imagination. Join us in a *prison* of *confinement*. My test subj^c^^ … I mean friends. (IP:500×500.xyz)
Prolog Week 1:
Players start in a deadly world, struggling to find food and survive.
By the end of the week, many players are gotten established and are now building automated farms.
During the week multiple unsavory contestants infiltrated and made purities leave. Thus forcing the corporation to set boundaries to control this pandemic.
Categories
HollowCraft Survival Server [1.16+]
![HollowCraft Survival Server [1.16+]](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/HollowCraft-Survival-Server-116.gif)
Enter a new world of adventure to discover the wonders and treasures that this server holds. Go on epic journeys, have the adventure of a lifetime and discover a whole new world! Create a place that feels like home and make new memories with friends!
Come join us on HollowCraft!
play.hollowcraft.co
Features
Crates
Buy Keys to unlock Crates and get custom items, spawners and keys to unlock higher tier crates. We offer 4 crates; Gaia, Tempest, Aquanaut & Inferno.
Supply Drops
Every 3 hours, 10 Supply Drops will fall from the sky into Spawn. Players will have 10 minutes to explore the area to try and find the supplies. There are 3 tiers of Supply Drops and they all have different tiers of rewards. If you are near a Supply Drop you will be able to see or hear fireworks in spawn.
Hollow Super Store
Buy furniture and decorations at the Hollow Super Store. We offer a wide arrangement of chairs, tables, appliances and other decorations to bring your indoor and outdoor builds to life.
Warps
Choose from a selection of /warps for you to use to travel around the spawn faster and efficiently!
Resource World
Running low on materials for your recipes or builds? Why not gather what you need in the Recourse World? You can access the resource world by typing in chat /rw tp.
World Resets
We reset the Resource World every 14 days while the End and Nether reset every 28 days. There is a countdown timer in the tab menu to see when resets take place.
Fishing Areas
Visit one of two fishing areas for your chance to win reward pearls that can be exchanged for in-game money.
Pets
Pick from our large variety of pets to have roaming the server with you as you work your way to the top! You can purchase multiple pets on our server and choose one to have with you while you explore the wild. Pets can be mounted or used as a hat. Adopt today at the pet shop located in Spawn behind the cosmetics shop.
Art Gallery
At the Hollow Art Gallery, you can buy paintings uploaded by the server or view local players’ work. If you would like to buy a painting simply click on Bob Ross and he will help you find your pick. If you have map art you would like to display, drop it off in the drop box and a staff member will put it on display for others to see.
Voting
To vote for the server type in chat /vote, proceed to the links provided in GUI and vote for HollowCraft. By voting, you win a Vote key which u can trade in at the vote NPC in spawn for cosmetic items or a chance at winning an Aquanaut key.
For more information on our server, please visit hollowcraft.co
![Feudal Fables | RPG | Towny | Heroes | Roleplay [Via Versions]](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Feudal-Fables-RPG-Towny-Heroes-Roleplay.png)
Join our discord!: discord.gg/QApzzYbJje
Enter the realm of Ainoh…
Here, players begin their journey in one of three nations, working within a town to scale the class tree and elevate their status in the realm. Players start as a peasant and have the ability to work their way up a unique class tree which limits their armor and weapons, but also grants powerful specialized skills. Warriors, Rogues, Healers, Mages, and Rangers- find your meta and conquer our growing number of custom mobs and bosses. Once players are strong enough, they can band together to raid other towns for spoils. Be careful making enemies though, as all towns are PVP and you are never safe from raiders.
This server is mainly survival based, most players will spend their time roleplaying in their town as they grow their team and develop their town. We have chest shops for players to establish shops in towns, as well as a global auction house which can be accessed via merchants at certain locations. For PVE and eco focused players, there is an alternate class tree available giving the player great utilities and advantages.
Welcome to Feudal Fables! We cant wait to expand this story with you!
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What is The Grotto?It’s always been difficult to explain what exactly The Grotto is intended to be. We’ve evolved since our first public launch, we’ve faced challenges and had to make difficult choices, yet we remain here as an indication, of our dedication, to create something amazing.The Grotto is in essence, an MMO styled Survival server;when joining for the first time, you can expect your usual survival aspects, with a smattering of interesting new features mixed in. Our goal is to create something which is, as cliche as it may sound, unique;a place where anyone is welcomed with open arms and given the chance toexplore something new.I suppose one could describe The Grotto as the ever-evolving creation of a mad scientist, afterall, one never knows what they may find while exploring our worlds..
❤️️ Awesome Features:
❤️️ What are you waiting for? Join Now and see you there!
Version: 1.17.1
Discord: http://discord.justchillmc.net/
Store: https://store.justchillmc.net/
Live Map: http://justchillmc.net:25572/
Server IP: justchillmc.net
![[FSMP 1.17.1] HyperWorld](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/FSMP-1171-HyperWorld.gif)
Welcome to HyperWorld SMP!
Our server is a lax community of people who just love minecraft.
There are minimal rules on the server, but please be sure to view them before embarking on your journey.
We have no monetization in our server.
Please join our discord to interact with the community
https://discord.gg/C892ukBN6X
Raiding is now and we’ve got plenty to offer you, including custom
developed unique plugins that no other servers can comply or stand against!
Custom Plugins
Dedicated staff
No Lag (Latency)
Years of Experience
Dedicated Forums
Owners who will actually talk to you!
developed unique plugins that no other servers can comply or stand against!
Not just that but we’ve got experience and friendly dedicated staff to help you at every corner!
A lot of servers are all about money, we’re not – we’re here for your enjoyment so why
not give us a vote and hop on over and have some fun?
![[ Lush Survival ] 🏡 Land Claim | 🌲 Trees Fall When Cut | 🏪 Player Shops | ⛏️ mcMMO](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Lush-Survival-Land-Claim-Trees-Fall-When.png)
![[ Lush Survival ] 🏡 Land Claim | 🌲 Trees Fall When Cut | 🏪 Player Shops | ⛏️ mcMMO Minecraft Server](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Lush-Survival-Land-Claim-Trees-Fall-When.jpg)
![[ Lush Survival ] 🏡 Land Claim | 🌲 Trees Fall When Cut | 🏪 Player Shops | ⛏️ mcMMO Minecraft Server](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/1634412667_393_Lush-Survival-Land-Claim-Trees-Fall-When.png)
![[ Lush Survival ] 🏡 Land Claim | 🌲 Trees Fall When Cut | 🏪 Player Shops | ⛏️ mcMMO Minecraft Server](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/1634412668_142_Lush-Survival-Land-Claim-Trees-Fall-When.png)
🏡 Land Claim
🌲 Trees Fall When Cut
🏪 Player Shops
💎 Diamond Based Economy
🐦 Fly in claims
⚔️ Toggle PvP
❌ No Crates
🛒 Auction House
📦 Chest, Inventory, & Hotbar Auto-Sorting
⛏️ mcMMO
🤸🏽 Custom Armor Stands
🌤️ Vote For Time & Weather
🤏 Silk Touch Spawners
✔️ EULA Compliant (Not Pay to Win)
This is a Big Booty Gamers run Private Hardcore Server (1.17.1)
Please apply in discord at https://discord.gg/bigbootygamers or add me NJORDIC#0001 on discord. You must be 16+.
Plugin List
– AugmentedHardcore
– DiscordSRV
– EssentialsX
– Freeze
– Lands
– RealisticSeasons
– Trade
– AutoRestart
Please note if you die, you will be banned for an hour!
DO NOT DIE!
![HushCraft.net [PG-13] [Survival] [Community]](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/HushCraftnet-PG-13-Survival-Community.gif)
HushCraft is a friendly PVE Survival Server that uses plugins to enhance the vanilla feel! With our small, close-knit community, members have no problem welcoming others to join us.
HushCraft is semi-vanilla Survival Server with fun plugins added. Some of our big ones are McMMO, GriefPrevention, and Essentials! We make use of a resource world to keep the regular world in pristine condition for all players to build and survive anywhere they desire.
We know how heart breaking it is to lose hours and hours of time you put into your builds. With our GriefPrevention plugin you can claim your land and not have to worry about pesky trolls and griefers! Did you forget to claim? No problem. Our staff work hard to monitor these things, but sometimes when they slip through we will rollback your builds and items no questions asked.
HushCraft is not a big business that wants to grab your money and run. HushCraft is owned by one person, and is actively in the community working every day to see how the community feels about new features and fixes current problems. You can always reach our staff in our active Discord by joining with this link! discord.com/invite/UBRym2CGQr
![Pillow Kingdom [Bedrock Support] [Survival 1.17.1]](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Pillow-Kingdom-Bedrock-Support-Survival-1171.png)
Java and Bedrock Server with Crossplay on 1.17.1
– Friendly Community
– Economy
– Land Claiming
– Custom Enchants
– Custom bosses and dungeons
– Jobs
IP: PillowKingdom.beastmc.com
BEDROCK PORT: 8032
![ZyraCraft [Survival] [New World]1.17.1](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ZyraCraft-Survival-New-World1171.gif)
Welcome To ZyraCraft please follow the rules below! enjoy ur stay
Rules
No Spamming
No Advertising
No Asking for OP, Ranks, or Items
Respect all Players
No Mods/Hacks
The server has a lot of different things to offer, our main game mode is survival 1.17.1 but it has a lot of custom features. The Ultimate goal for HuabaCraft is to make a community filled with creative and competitive players who can excel towards the top. The server is very new-user friendly as we have a bunch of people willing to help start your adventure!
We can offer you:
– Custom enchants (over 100+)
– New innovative GEMS system
– Premium features
– Vote rewards
– Crates
– Adventuring
-Active Community and Staff
-Player-Based Economy
-Custom Events And Much More!!!
We can offer you:
– Custom enchants (over 100+)
– New innovative GEMS system
– Premium features
– Vote rewards
– Crates
– Adventuring
-Active Community and Staff
-Player-Based Economy
-Custom Events And Much More!!!
Introduction
Hi, my name is Bonney. I am working on a Demon Slayer based RP Minecraft server and I am looking to build a team passionate about the project. So far I have worked alone on this project but thought it would be great to build a small team of individuals that could get this project moving more quickly.
Recruiting
I am currently recruiting for builders, developers, modellers, people with strong understanding of plugins and configuration, and anyone who thinks they could bring something to the team. Please reach out via Discord if you are interested in the project or joining the team.
Discord:
Bonney#0001
![DetroitMC - Multi-World | Towny | mcMMO | Werewolf | Magic | PvP | Jobs - [1.17]](https://minecraft-servers-listing.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/DetroitMC-Multi-World-Towny-mcMMO-Werewolf.gif)
Welcome to DetroitMC Minecraft Server
Thanks for stopping by!
Our History
DetroitMC, formally TBDLGamez, originated around 2011 as a small, pure vanilla server, founded by two friends, TB and DL who wanted to create a community where persons could come to after a long day and forget about the real world. We thrived for a number of great years, but then, as with most people, life gets in the way of things and the server had to go by the wayside thereafter.
The Community Today
Today, we are back and stronger than ever! Though, we are a small community at this time, with a growing base of “regular” members, we still hold those same core values we had back in 2011. Take a glimpse into the thriving community our members and staff have established here on Minecraft, as well as, Discord. Create a town with your friends, or join one of the many existing in-game! Become a master of your craft by joining the ranks of miner, builder, explorer, hunter, brewer and many more! Create a shop to sell your wares – or visit the server shop for supplies! PvP those around you who also have PvP enabled and create a thriving nation that will withstand the test of time!
The Future
Our success relies on the input of all of our members! If you have any suggestions, please feel free to contact a staff member in-game, or on the Discord channel. We are always striving to improve our offerings to you, the member and are open to suggestions.
Welcome to The Wolf Den!
The Wolf Den is a community based factions server who has just integrated the new 1.18 Caves and Biomes system into our server. Our server still runs on 1.17 so don’t worry, you can experience the newest of minecraft inside of our server, for free!
Open to all Bedrock and Java players (Bedrock Players use port 19132 to connect)
Why should you join The Wolf Den?:
We offer a friendly and inclusive environment, as well as respect players who want their time and space to theirselves. We have tons of fun and useful plugins, such as:
– Magic
– AureliumSkills
– LevelledMobs
– Factions (Premium)
– Anti – Cheat / Xray
– Player Bounties
– Auction House
– Economy
– Shops
And much more!
Still not sure? Check out a few of our links to really grasp the server!:
Website – https://www.thewolfdenmc.com
YouTube – The Wolf Den – play.thewolfdenmc.com – OPEN NOW! – YouTube
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@thewolfdenmc
Discord – https://discord.gg/XYb7CyAqTX
Connect to the server using this IP (1.1-1.17) – play.thewolfdenmc.com
Bedrock users can connect with this port: 19132 (IP-play.thewolfdenmc.com)
Welcome to Lotl Origins! This is a modded 1.17.1 fabric server with the main mod being Origins, but featuring many other mods as well such as croptopia, and adorn. Features basic server commands such as sethome and tpa, friendly staff, and custom origins!
Server IP: play.allyearthmc.com
website: allyearthmc.com
If you are looking for a fun community to start your next adventure I welcome you to join our server! (Not P2W!)
AllyEarth has a ton of features including a brand new 1.17 Earth Map that is 1:500 scale. Combined with Towny and Vehicles you can quite literally make your own airport in Los Angles, race track in Belem or whatever you can think of! We have a beast of a server (128GB of dedicated ram) to support many players with all these fun additions. Lucrative jobs (you don’t have to grind for several days just to buy a train). We have some custom items with a ton more coming soon!
We even have an active discord which you’re able to submit suggestions and feedback on ways to improve the server!
Thanks for reading the post! We’ve put a lot of time into making the server and hope you have fun!
New server I’m working on, hopefully you enjoy it! (I’ve made servers in the past, so I have some idea of what I’m doing! Join our discord for the rules! You will be kicked/banned for not following them.)
This server was created on 10/2/2021, and contains plugins and content brought in from other server’s I’ve made. SMP styled so no teleportation plugins, but we will be adding custom teleportation features later on, join the discord for future info on that!